as anybody else. >> ari, i'm not neutral on this because like the ad said, i am an obama following radical hollywood liberal. when they say that about ashley judd, i'm really hurt. zeshlgs y >> well, you booked the right guest. we have that in common. >> ashley judd, look at this ppp poll of kentucky voters, ashley judd at 43%, mitch mcconnell at 47%. now, what that means is mitch mcconnell is in grave trouble. as you know, ari, an incumbent is supposed to poll over 50%, usually significantly over 50%. whenever they poll before bee low 50 they're in grave trouble. the presumption is if the election was held literally today, the undecideds would go to the challenger ashley judd. she's a shoe-in, is what i'm saying. >> there's a lot of time but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has a problem here.